but when he had his back to the wall with rick perry, newt gingrich, rick santorum, you saw this sort of pattern. the fact checker at the waup has been -- "washington post" has been able to quantify this and he's at newt gingrich levels of honesty. >> oh, my goodness. >> president obama has gotten his share of pinocchios as well, but he's well within the range of normal politics. what romney has been doing here seems to be on a whole other plane, and that is to take something that is known to be false, it's been demonstrated to be false, retreat from it and go right back out and do it again. >> it's brilliant. toure, i mentioned earlier the fear that's been caused by these romney falsehoods about these workers losing their jobs. let's listen to how the president responded to that. >> you've got folks who work at the jeep plant who have been calling their employers worried asking is it true, are our jobs being shipped to china? and the reason they're making these calls is because governor romney has been running an ad that says so. >> how are we supposed to trust a person who wants to